Model #486252442 CRAFTSMAN Accessories / Attachments, Gas Tiller

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Q:

New Transmission came with felt washer outside of dust cap

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Good morning... I can fully understand your concern regarding this issue. I will forward your question to an expert who will investigate the matter further and get back to you. You will hear from them within two business days if not sooner. Until you hear from us, have a nice day.

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Henry -
March 08, 2013
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Thank you for your question. I will be happy to assist you. The felt washer should be inside the dust caps. I am not sure why the manufacturer would put them on the outside unless it is to protect the dust caps during shipping. Who knows! To install the felt washer you need to slide the washer off the shaft. With a flat blade screwdriver, gently pry off the dust cap. Insert the washer into the dust cap and tap it back on the transmission with a soft faced hammer.  I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you need further assistance.  Thank you for using Manage my life. Mark

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Mark T -
Sears Technician
March 09, 2013
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Mark - Thank you for the help. I guess it is actually a good thing I had to take the dust cap off because not only did they NOT put the felt washer inside the dust cap, they also did not put in the rubber seal, p/n HA20124. Fortunately, I had a spare set that I ordered the last time I rebuilt the transmission. I installed the felt washer and have pretty much reassembled the rototiller. Now, however, another problem. The dust caps are so wide that the tines will not go onto the shaft. I will open a new report and send photos. Thank you very much for the quick and helpful response about the felt washer.

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Patrick -
March 09, 2013
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Patrick, I looked up the part number for the dust caps and it did not change numbers. The dust cap should be the same as the original. If they are wider, you can call the parts department and have them exchange the unit or you may want to try the dust caps from the old transmission. If they work, it might be easier to use them instead of going through the work of exchanging it. If the old caps do not work let me know. I will be happy to call the manufacturer to see if they have a different part number, we can get. Thank you for using Manage my life. Mark

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Mark T -
Sears Technician
March 11, 2013
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Just to follow up on this - the dust caps were wider because the wrong transmission was shipped. The new transmission was redesigned with bearings instead of the brass seal on the output shaft. The new transmission has zerk fittings for greasing the bearings, and the dust cap is wider and larger in circumference. From the photos above, it is obvious that the transmission was redesigned.

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Patrick -
March 18, 2013
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Q:

Oil for new Rototiller Transmission, p/n HA20119

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I did some research on the Rototiller but was not able to find an answer to your question. Your expert will be able to help answer your question. It may take two business days. I do hope that everything works out.

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Marc -
March 10, 2013
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Thank you for your question.  I will be happy to assist you. I contacted the manufacturer to see if they made a change to the transmission. According to them, the unit still uses 30-weight oil. I recommend checking to see if the unit has any oil in it first. You may need stick something into the hole or tip the unit to check. If it does not have any oil, go ahead and add the 22 ounces. If it does hove oil in it, do not add more. If you would also like to verify this, you can call them at 1-217-728-8388.  Please let me know if you need further assistance. Thank you for using Manage my life.Mark

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Mark T -
Sears Technician
March 12, 2013
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Thank you for the information. The transmission appears to be packed with grease, which kind of surprises me. I wonder if the manufacturer you called is the same one that made the new configuration of transmission. This new one is significantly different that the old one, as I mentioned in one of the other questions. It has grease fittings (zerk fittings) on the gears. With the transmission being greased, I hesitate to try to put any oil in it because it might cause problems for the greased bearings in the new drive shaft assembly. The new transmission does not look like the one in the IPB and I think Sears needs to see what is going on. Thanks again for the reply.

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Patrick -
March 12, 2013
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Mark - I broke the code on what happened. I spoke with Agri-Fab and described the transmission I received. They said they shipped the wrong transmission. The one I got had the correct part number, but was actually designed for a newer model of tiller. They said not to put oil in the transmission because, as I mentioned, it came filled with grease. They advised to leave it alone, with the grease.

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Patrick -
March 13, 2013
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Patrick, Thank you for the update. I am glad they were able to identify the problem for you. When you get the correct tines make note of the part number so if you need to replace them later you can get the correct tines. Let me know how this works out. Thank you for using Manage my life. Mark

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Mark T -
Sears Technician
March 15, 2013
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Tines do not fit shaft on new transmission.

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I can understand your frustration over the tines now fitting on your transmission. While you are waiting for your expert answer, I did some research on the unit. At this time, I was unable to locate information that would be helpful in regards to your question. Some of these questions that are asked will need specific research and will be answered by an expert with-in two business days but usually sooner.

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Julio -
March 09, 2013
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Update - On the new transmission, the design of the bearing assemblies and the dust caps make the assembly wider than the traditional transmission. Because of the added width, the holes in the tine assemblies cannot line up with the holes in the tine shaft assembly. I cut off 1/4 inch of the flange on my old tine and the right hand tine would then line up. Unfortunately, the left hand tine still would not quite line up. It was about 1/16 inch out of alignment. Cutting more of the flange did not help because it was bottomed out against the dust cap. I shaved about 1/8" from the dust cap, but the design of the cap still prevents the tine from fitting. I ended up elongating the hole in the left hand tine assembly, which was a lot of work. I lined up my old flange/bearing assembly, p/n HA20123 with new one on the new transmission and the plate material of the assembly is much thicker on the new flange/bearing than on the old one. That thickness, combined with the wider dust cap, take up the space needed to get the tines onto the shaft. This is a major design flaw. Anyone who uses the new transmission will not be able to use the tines that are supposed to fit the tiller, unless they cut down the flange on the new tines and elongate the holes in the tine. Somebody needs to figure out what to do. I have a new set of tines and they will not fit and I do not want to mangle them because of the poor design of the new transmission. Please advise what I can do. Is Sears going to sell a new version of tines, or what?

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Patrick -
March 10, 2013
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Patrick,I looked up the part number for the dust caps and it did not change numbers. The dust cap should be the same as the original. If they are wider, you can call the parts department and have them exchange the unit or you may want to try the dust caps from the old transmission. If they work, it might be easier to use them instead of going through the work of exchanging it. If the old caps do not work let me know. I will be happy to call the manufacturer to see if they have a different part number, we can get.  Thank you for using Manage my life.Mark

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Mark T -
Sears Technician
March 11, 2013
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Mark - The problem is that the new transmission is significantly different than the original. Not only are the dust caps different, the entire drive shaft design is different. The old one had a brass seal, with a rubber seal and felt gasket that were covered by the dust cap. The new one has replaced the brass fitting with a bearing assembly, with zerk fittings to grease the bearing. The new design of the transmission drive housing is about 1/2 inch wider than the old one, which translates to about 1/4 inch on each side. That 1/4 inch added width of the assembly prevents the tines from being mounted on the shaft. I have a new set of tines that I cannot use because they will not fit on the redesigned shaft. It looks like someone switched vendors for the transmission and the new one does not work with the tines being sold by Sears. The old caps will not fit because the circumference of the bearing assembly is much larger on the new transmission. The IPB you are using is probably the same one I am using, and it shows the old configuration. I need help figuring out what do do because I have reassembled the tiller but cannot use my new tines. As I mentioned, I cut off the flange on the old tines and drilled out the hole in the tines to make them fit. But they are worn out and I need to use my new tines, but they won't fit and I do not want to cut them up. Please advise what Sears plans to do to provide tines that will work with the new transmission configuration. Thank you for any help you can provide.

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Patrick -
March 12, 2013
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Mark - I found out what happened. I called Agri-Fab, the company that makes the tillers, and they said they shipped the wrong transmission. Even though it had the right part number and it fit in the tiller, it was redesigned to add greased bearings and grease fittings. Because of the redesign, the tines ordered through SearsPartsDirect for my tiller will not fit with the new (incorrect) transmission. The folks at Agri-Fab were very helpful in identifying what went wrong and are doing what they can to get some tines to me that will fit the new transmission. I was relieved to have someone acknowledge that the new transmission is different from the old one, as shown in the photos I posted in the earlier problem report. Thank you for your help, especially in identifying the manufacturer. I hope I can soon get back to work with the tiller.

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Patrick -
March 13, 2013
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Patrick, Thank you for the update. I am glad they were able to identify the problem for you. When you get the correct tines make note of the part number so if you need to replace them later you can get the correct tines. Let me know how this works out. Thank you for using Manage my life. Mark

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Mark T -
Sears Technician
March 15, 2013
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